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when you scroll down the FrontPage of the Forum, you´ll find "Projekt Postverträge". When you click on the left side then on "Erweiterte Suche" (advanced search) youll find this page:

https://www.dasv-postgeschichte.de/pv/pv_show.asp?ext=1

Now you can fill in the date and countries and you can see, wheather there are contracts online, or not. You´ll find many thousands, in German, English, French etc.

Hope you have some days off ...

Not getting days off - but I've been looking there each weekend and viewing a different document or two each time. It's a great batch of information!
Danke for pointing it out. I just wanted you to know it has already been of great use to me.
Rob

Merci Emmanuel!

It is my understanding that the Italo-Anglo mail via France was closed mail. I am away from notes, so I don't have the taxation breakdown available.
Here is a prepaid item that also shows no French markings as expected for closed mail.
Rob

Dieter,
I see a new thread and it needs a reply! I will try to come back and give the details of the following later. But, here is one of my Kingdom of Italy to France items.

I believe it went by rail via Ventimiglia.
Rob

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Hello Rob

as it happens so often in life - a good brain from abroad can open the mind of the complacent local collectors.

LOL! I left my brain somewhere today and can't find it!

Kevin,
Danke!
I agree, the Strubels are beyond what I am able to spend on this part of my hobby... so, 4th period it is.
I am still not going to try to WRITE a reply in German.
I will review the page when I am not sleepy.

Ralph,
So, it takes a US collector to show up and just mess everything up!

Rob

Kevin,
Your English is quite good. I have no problem with it. I just realize I am often relying so much on the kindness of others on this forum because I am language limited. So, I wished to offer to do my part if certain subtleties are hard to explain in English. I'll probably fail in my own translation - but it doesn't hurt me to work on it.

I find this information useful, my thanks.

I realized that most of my knowledge comes from the French postal history perspective between the two nations, not the Swiss. I think I also need to read the postal agreement between the two countries carefully since I miss this information. Still, all of my Swiss to French items are 1860-1875, so I have not had enough cause to work on this. Now I do!
Best,
Rob

Kevin,
You wrote the following:

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First of all, I want to make a little correction, you wrote "40 centimes per 7.5 grams : Jul 1, 1850 - Sep 30, 1865", but that´s wrong.
Your letter was sended in the fourth period from Aug 15, 1859 up to Sep 30, 1865, but 40 Rappen per 7,5 grams is correct.

When you say fourth period, what was the event that separated 3rd and 4th periods?
All I have knowledge of is the convention that was effective on Jul 1, 1850 and the convention that followed on Oct 1, 1865. The rate was still the same 40 rappen/centimes per 7.5 g. So, from a rate standpoint, the date range is correct as far as I understand.

Also, thank you for responding in English. If it is hard to explain in English, write in German and I will work to translate. I am getting better - but I miss small details. And I am hopeless when it comes to writing in German.

Danke,
Rob

Ralph,
Danke.
I will probably not worry too much about the Thurn & Taxis exception until I have more items that require that knowledge. For now, I have my hands full trying to figure out letter mail 1850-1875 in Western Europe at the basic to intermediate levels.

Recently published an article with the Postal History Society (US) on a series of letters to Amsterdam from various parts of Europe. Working on a second article looking at Swiss/French mail exchange. So, that is where the detail effort is going right now. Nothing groundbreaking, I am sure. But, basic knowledge of the workings of foreign mail outside of US interactions needs more exposure in the US, so I am hoping to provide some of that.
The problem is that I very much want to get things exactly correct, but I know I have many gaps in knowledge.

Rob

Kevin,
Danke!
Rob

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Hello Rob

hoping to help you before November:

1st letter

Credit to Bade would be correct, as the Swiss letter packet was opened by the post of Bade first. Wurttemberg got nothing for this letter.

2nd letter

Credit to Wurttemberg would be correct, as the Swiss letter packet was sent an opened of Wurttemberg first. Bavaria got nothing.

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Oh ho! Danke. So, first DOPV member to open the mailbag gets the credit? Unless we're talking about Thurn & Taxis post I presume.

Rob

Ralph asked that I show everything I have from Switzerland to GAPU. I now show you HALF of what I have on one page. I think I have the information correct on these pages and am willing to share them now.
I show one other item to Austria in the appropriate thread and my remaining item is shown in a separate post above but I've yet to make a page for it. Might be November by the time I get to it.

Best,
Rob

I finally managed to complete the page where I show the cover from Basel to Vulpmes. I place it here for all to see and criticize (as they see fit). I think I got the facts correct.

Best,
Rob

My eyes are still crossed after looking at the item in post 96... oy!
Rob

I like Kevin's cover too! Thanks to Ralph for explanation. Helps me to see more things as well.
Rob

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Hello Rob,

in the early beginning of this Forum I unfortunately used a picture hoster and not the system generated for the Forum.

This Company was bankrupt one or two years later, so all the items I showed (and those were hundreds) are gone in the wideness of the Internet.

I bought this one with the transit of Bade for a good friend of mine, who sold his collection recently via Potsdam Philatelistisches Buero completely, so I´m sorry for the scans.

Ralph,

Thanks for the reply. I certainly understand. All is well. Even if I fail to reply until April!
Rob

Kevin,

It appears to be normal for French 2nd and 3rd rate to have no
additional postal marking to confirm (see example of an internal third
rate here).

There was a very complex series of railway schedules for the transfer of mail between France and Switzerland.

According to the postal instructions for the treaty, mail from the Rhone
region to Zurich had two options. Either it would go via Bellegarde and
Geneve (3 to 4 train departures) or it would go to Dijon and via St
Louis and Basel (2 train departures). If I read the time correctly on
the Lyon postmark, it would 1:00 and next train departure for mail was
2:45 for Dijon.

Rob

I can also see those numbers as being a '56 for the year date and the "7" I saw as a flourish.
Can you share the reverse so we can have more of the puzzle?
The only items I am finding from that period to Denmark are via Prussian Closed Mail, I will need to look further to see if I can find something via Hamburg or Bremen
Rob

Hello all. It looks like Nordlicht's letter is date in march of 1867. That is what I read that top number as being (not a '36'). It is part of the date as written at the point of origin.
Is there content or anything else that led you to believe a different year date on this?
Rob